Richard Mill Esqr., Mottisfont is associated to Property 331
Property 331 appears to be Mottisfont Abbey.
Historic England's official listing has reference both to Mottisfont Abbey and Richard Mill.
On the death of the eighth Lord Sandys and the extinction of the title in 1684, Mottisfont passed to his nephew Sir John Mill. Sir John's second son, Richard, who succeeded in 1706, altered the Tudor house to its present form, carried out planting in the park, and also appears to have been the first to use the name Mottisfont Abbey. The property descended through the Mill family, being inherited in 1884 by Mrs Vaudrey Barker-Mill.
History of Mottisfont Abbey by National Trust
The Mill family transformed Mottisfont into the building and landscapes recognisable today. By the 1730s, Lord Sandys’ Tudor house was beginning to look old and dated, and Sir Richard Mill started modernising the house. He knocked down the outer courtyards and re-modelled the main house, adding the pediment and the projecting bays to create the house we see today.
The History of Parliament
MILL, Sir Richard, 5th Bt. (?1689-1760), of Woolbeding, nr. Midhurst, Suss.
Family and Education
b. ?1689, 2nd s. of Sir John Mill, 3rd Bt., of Woolbeding, Suss. by Margaret, da. and h. of Thomas Grey of Woolbeding. educ. St. John’s, Oxf. 12 Mar. 1708, aged 18. m. 12 Mar. 1713, Mary, da. of Robert Knollys of Grove Place, Nursling, Hants, 4s. 5da. suc. bro. John 1706, Thomas Knollys (s. of Henry Knollys) at Grove Place 1751.
Born about 1689, 2nd son of Sir John Mill, 3rd Baronet, of Woolbeding, Sussex, and Margaret Mill nee Grey, daughter and heir of Thomas Grey of Woolbeding.
Married 12 March 1713 daughter of Robert Knollys of Grove Place, Nursling Hampshire. They had four sons and 5 daughters.
Succeeded his brother John Mills 1706.
MILL, Sir Richard, 6th Bt. (c.1717-70), of Montisford, Hants.
Family and Education
b. c.1717, 1st s. of Sir Richard Mill, 5th Bt., M.P., by Margaret, da. of Robert Knollys of Grove Place, Nutshelling, Hants. educ. New Coll. Oxf. 1735. m. Aug. 1760, Dorothy, da. and h. of Richard Warren of Redcliff, Som., 2da. suc. fa. 16 May 1760.
Born c. 1717, first son of Sir Richard Mill, 5th Baronet, MP and Margaret Mill nee Knollys who was the daughter of Robert Knollys of Grove Place, Nutshelling, Hampshire. (Nutshelling is now known as Nursling)
Married in August 1760 to Dorothy, daughter and heir of Richard Warren of Redcliff, Somerset, They had two daughters.
He succeeded his farther on 16 May 1760.
Montisford and Grove Place linked my marriage
Baptism record extracted from the Parish Records of Woolbeding, Sussex, England.
Richard the son of Sr Richard Mill & Margaret his wife was born Novombr the 25th & baptised the 27th of Novombr
Will of Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont
An exploration of his will and the Beneficiaries mentioned therein. Followed by expanding the research to include him and his family, together with any links to other Biddlecombe families in the series.
This will, and its transcription are part of the research into the Mill family and dynasty.
Will of Sir Richard Mill
Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont, Hampshire, his will
The starting place for this article is his Last Will and Testament as found in the The National Archives.
Will of Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont , Hampshire
Catalogue description
Will of Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont , Hampshire
Reference: PROB 11/956/136
Description: Will of Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont , Hampshire
Date: 20 March 1770
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
This is evidently a very long Last Will and Testament.
My initial transcription of the above will.
Sr Richard Mill Bart
In the Name of God Amen
I Sir Richard Mill of Mottisfont in the County of Southampton Baronet being of sound and disposing Mind do make ordain and publish this my Last Will and Testament in manor and form following that is to say In the first place ratify and confirm the Settlement or xxx made by me previous to and in a Consideration of my Marriage with my loving wife Dorothea Will and do direct the same to be xxx observed and xxx into xxx xxx to the time xxx and xxx as thereof and I do Give and bequeath to my said Wife One thousand pounds to be paid to her within one year next after my death over and above what She is or will be xxx to by such Marriage Contract and I also Give and bequeath to my siad wife for and x during her widowhood all things Jewells watch trinkets x and other xxx of her person and upon her death or Second Marriage of my Wife which shall first happen
I Give and Bequeath the same to my Executors herein after named Upon Trust that they do deliver over the same to my first Son in case I shall dye saving a Son born in my Life for which shall be born after my death xxx and as soon as such Son shall attain his age of Twenty one years and in case of the death of such son before his age Twenty one years then upon Trust that they do in like manner xxx the same to my second Son in case I shall dye having a second Son either born in my life time or after my death but in case I shall leave no Son that shall Live to to attain the age of twenty one years Then upon Trust Wish they do deliver over the same to my present daughter xxx Margaret Dorothea Mill when She shall attain her age of Twenty one years or be married with the consent of her Guardians herein after named or the Survivors or Survivor of them and in case of her death before such age or Marriage then upon Trust that they do deliver over the same to such of my future Daughters as shall first live to attain the said age or be married as aforesaid to be taken and xxx by such of my daughters as shall first survive the same as and for her own personal Ornaments and as part of her xxx
Also I Give and Bequeath to my friend and and acquaintance Captain William Barnard One hundred pounds
Also I Give and Bequeath fifty pounds to my Servant Elizabeth Mathews and five pounds x xxx to such other Servants as shall be Living in my Service at the time of my death Also I Give and Bequeath to my said present Daughter Ten Thousand pounds to be paid to her when she shall attain her age of Twenty one Years or be married with such Consent as aforesaid in case I shall dye leaving no other Child either born in my Life or after my Death other than and besides an Eldest or only Son but in case I shall leave another Child either born in my Life time or which shall be born after my death other than and besides an eldest or only Son then and in such Case I Give and Bequeath to my said present daughter the Sum of Six thousand pounds only and to such other younger Child the like Sum of Six thousand pounds said xxx of Six thousand pounds to my said present Daughter to be paid to her when she shall attain her age of Twenty one years or be married with such Consent as aforesaid and the said other xxx of Six thousand pounds to my said other younger Child to be paid to him if a Son when he shall attain his age ot Twenty one years and to her if a Daughter when she shall attain the age or be married with such Consent as aforesaid but in Case I shall die leaving my said present Daughter and xxx or more other younger Children Either born in my Life time or which shall be born after my death
Then and in such Case I Give and Bequeath to my said present Daughter and my said other younger Children the Sum of four thousand pounds a xxx and no more such xxx and xxx xxx to be paid as follows so xx to my said present Daughter when she shall attain her age of Twenty one years or be married with such Consent as aforesaid and to my said other younger Children if Sons when they shall xxx and xxx attain their xxx Ages of Twenty one years and if Daughters when they shall xxx and xxx attain the like age or be married with such Consent as aforesaid which shall first happen and it is my Will and I do hereby xxx that xxx for the before mentioned xxx or xxx to my said present Daughter and other younger Children after the of three pounds and ten shilling per xxx per Annum to be Computed from the day of my death thill such xxx or xxx shall xxx payable shall be paid and applied toward the Maintenance Education and bringing up of my said present Daughter and other younger Children by her and their Guardians herein after named or the Survivors or Survivor of them and it is by further Will and I do hereby direct that in case my said present Daughter or any other of my said younger Children shall happen to dye before his her or their portion or portions shall becombe payable as aforesaid then the portion or portions of him her or them so happening to dye shalll go and be paid to and be equally divided between the Survivors when the original portion or portions of such Survivors or Survivor shall become payable as aforesaid but so that no such Child have more than ten thousand pounds and in Case by the deaths such younger Children shall be xxx to one before the aforsaid portion or portions shall become payable then no more than ten thousand pounds shall be paid to such younger Child and in Case all such younger Children shall happen to dye before their or any of their portions shall become payable as aforesaid then the said Sums or any of them shall not be paid but in such Case my Manors Messuages Lands and Estates herein after xxx to the payment thereof shall from xxx forth be discharged and acquitted those from for the benefit of the person or persons to whom the said Manors Messuages Lands and Estates shall from time to time xxx and belong
Also I Give and Bequeath to my three Executors herein after named One hundred pounds a piece
Also it is my Will and I do hereby direct that all my Debts and funeral Expenses and all the xxx xxx by me herein before given together with all the Debts xxx and Annuities of my late xxx father xxx shall be Charged upon and be paid out of my Several Manors Messuages Lands Parsonages Tithes Pensions xxx and xxx Estates situate & Lying and being in the several Counties of Southampton and Sussex and in the Town and County of Southampton or Elsewhere in the Kingdom of Great Britian in case my personal Estate shall prove insufficient for the payment thereof and I do hereby subject and charge my said several Several Manors Messuages Lands Parsonages Tithes Pensions Hereditaments and xxx Estates to and with the payment of the same accordingly or so much thereof as my personal Estate shall not be xxx to pay and it is my Will that all my personal Estate after deducting the Costs of by Executors in the Execution of this my Will shall be so apply in the first place xxx and xxx my xxx Manor of Southwells otherwise xxx together with the Mansion House called Grove Place and all other Buildings farms Lands Meadows xxx and xxx xxx to the said Manor belonging in the said County of Southampton and also all my xxx xxx furniture plate xxx and things all xxx part therein of my Executors and to be at Liberty to sell or not sell as they in their discretion shall think fit but if sold then it is my Will and direction that the Money to arise thereby shall be applied towards discharging the Disbursements aforesaid in aid of my xxx Estates Subject as aforesaid to the payment thereof.
Also I Give and devise my said Several Manors Messuages Lands Parsonages Tithes Pensions Hereditaments and xxx Estates so Subject and intangible as aforesaid to my first Son in Case I shall have any Son at my death or there xxx Son that shall be born after my death and the xxx xxx of his Body dutifully xxx and xx of xxx xxx my xxx Son in Case I shall have any as aforesaid and the xxx xxx of his Body xxx xxx and in default of such xxx my xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx and the xxx xx of their xxx xxx xxx Lawfully xxx and for xxx of xxx xxx Brother John Mill for and xxx the Town of his xxx xxx without xxx of xx for and xxx of waste and xxx xxx xxx his xxx to his first Son and to xxx Make of his xxx Sons xxx xxx and in xxx xxx xxx to his xxx xxx xxx xxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx the xxx Make of the xxx and xxx xxx Lawfully issuing and in default of such xxx xxx xxx Will forward during the term of his natural Life xxx xxx of or for any mannor of xxx and from xxx xxx xxx xxx first Son and the xxx xx of his Body Lawfully xxx and in default of xxx xxx his xxx third xxx the and xxx Sons xxx to xxx xxx of Age and xxx of Birth and the xxx xxx of the xxx and xxx xxx xxx xxxx my Brother Charles Mill for and during the term of his natural Life without xxx xxx of or for any xxx of waste and from and after his demise to his first Son xxx to xxx xxx of his Body Lawfully xxx and in default of such xxx his second third fourth and other Sons xxx according to their xxx of Age and priority of Birth and the xxx xxx of their xxx and xxx Bodys Lawfully xxx and for and in default of all such xxx xx xx xx for over and it is xxxx in Case I shall have a Son wholly xx time of this my Will shall xx xx to my said Real Estates that the Surplus of the Rents Issues and Profits of my said xxx Estates beyond what shall be xxx to xxx Maintain and bring him up and to pay the Interest of the debts or Sums Charged xx or after xx said Real Estates by the will of my said father or by this my Will or otherwise together with the allowance hereinafter xxx xxx to the Guardians herein after named of such Son shall from time to time be paid and applied during the Minority of such Son in discharge of the said debts or Sums as part thereof in order to xxx and xxx such Disbursements and to this End that such Surplus or savings may not be considered as the personal Estate of such Son
Also it is my Will and
Old Template material pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb. Not relevant.
My initial transcription of the above will.
In the name of God Amen:
This fifteenth day of July in the year of our Lord One thousand six hundred Forty and seven I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightowns in the parish of Ringwood in the County of South a yeoman being sick in body, but of good and perfect memory thanks be given Almighty God do make and ordain this my last will and testament as followeth. First I Commit my Soul into the hands of Almighty god, and my body to be buried in the parish Church of Ringwood.
Item I give to the poor people of Ringwood twenty shillings.
Item I give to my Son John Biddlecomb twenty pounds lawful money of England, {....}.
I give to my said Son John Biddlecomb sixteen pounds being part of the debt of Edward Riffen unto me by bond, and which sixteen pounds my said son John Biddlecomb hath {.........} {were......}.
Item I gift to my Grand children Elinor Dantor Iornd Dantor and Margartt Dantor and Richard Dantor and to xxxx and xxxx of them five pounds lawfull money of England.
Item I give to my Grandchild Thomas Biddlecombe five pounds of lawfull money of England.
Item I give to my Grandchildren Richard Biddlecombe and Elizabeth Biddlecombe and to {.....} and either of them five pounds lawfull money of England
Item I give to my Daughter Margarett Rook twenty shillings lawfull money of England.
All the other of my goods and chattels moveable and nonmoveable my debts and bequests paid.
I give and bequeath unto Richard Biddlecomb my Son whom I do make and ordain my full and sole Executor in and by this my last will and testament
I witness whereof I have hereunto set my hands and seal and published this my last will and testament the day and year above written in the {.....} of Christopher Biddlecomb his sign
Christophor Iun his sign
Nicholas Bounds
Date of Will |
15 July 1647 |
Date of Codicil |
None |
Date of Proving |
26 May 1649 |
People in the Will of Christopher Biddlecombe of Hightown
From the above it appears that Christopher Biddlecomb made provision for the following family, in addition to the poor people of Ringwood.
People mentioned in the Will dated 15th July 1647, of Christopher Biddlecomb, Hightown, Hampshire
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John Biddlecomb |
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Richard Biddlecomb |
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Margarett Rook |
Daughter |
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Margarett Biddlecomb |
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Elinor Dantor Iornd Dantor and Margartt Dantor and Richard Dantor |
Grand children |
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Thomas Biddlecomb |
Grand child |
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Richard Biddlecomb and Elizabeth Biddlecomb |
Grand children |
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Richard Biddlecomb |
Executor / Executrix |
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Christophor Iun |
Witness |
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Nicholas Bounds |
Witness |
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People mentioned in the Will of Christopher Biddlecomb of Ringwood
Apart from the witnesses and the poor people of Ringwood.
John Biddlecomb
John Biddlecomb
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
Item I give to my Son John Biddlecomb twenty pounds lawful money of England, {....}.
I give to my said Son John Biddlecomb sixteen pounds being part of the debt of Edward Riffen unto me by bond, and which sixteen pounds my said son John Biddlecombe hath {.........} {were......}.
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
Richard Biddlecomb
Richard Biddlecomb
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
All the other of my goods and chattels moveable and nonmoveable my debts and bequests paid.
I give and bequeath unto Richard Biddlecomb my Son whom I do make and ordain my full and sole Executor in and by this my last will and testament
I have not been able to find records that are sufficiently identifiable as the son of Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
Margarett Biddlecomb
Margarett Rook nee Biddlecomb
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
Item I give to my Daughter Margarett Rook twenty shillings lawfull money of England.
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
If this is the same Christopher as in the will at the top of the page, with a Probate Date 26 May 1649, suggesting a year of death of 1649.
Baptism for Margaret Biddlecomb, daughter of Christofer Biddlecomb on 25 Mar 1606.
First name(s) Margaret
Last name Biddlecomb
Gender Female
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1606
Baptism date 25 Mar 1606
Place Ringwood
County Hampshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Christofer
Father's last name Biddlecomb
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
From Hampshire Parish Extracts
Steph Rook of Ellingham & Margaret Biddlecomb of Ringwood sp, at Ibsley, 05 Feb 1629.
Collection Hampshire: - Marriage Licences, 1607-1640 (Marriage)
Margaret was a spinster and from Ringwood. If it is the same Margaret baptised 1606 and if born shortly before, she would have been approximately 23 years of age.
Both these seem to fit.
This is further reinforced with the Will of Stephen Rook of Rockford, Ellingham, Hampshire dated 4th February 1644, where his wife Margaret is mentioned.
I have made a first pass at a transcription of this Will. I don't currently plan to do a full analysis of the Will but use the extracted information, such as his brothers, in my Ancestry Tree.
The section on the bottom, adjacent to the witnesses marks appears to be in Latin and my be to do with the Proving of the Will. I have not attempted to translate or transcribe it. There does appear to be a date on it.
1645, which I would hazard a guess to be the year of death.
The marriage of Steph Rook of Ellingham & Margaret Biddlecomb of Ringwood, spinster, at Ibsley, 05 Feb 1629 was only 16 years previously. However, no direct children are mentioned in the will, only children of other members of the family.
In the name of God Amen
The fourth day of February Anno Domino 1644 I Stephen Rook of Rockford in the Parish of Ellingham in the County of South Yeoman being sike in body but of ??? and sound mind and memory thanks be given to God for it do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament as ????
I??? I bequeath my soul to God that gave it hoping that be the ???? and ??? of Jesus Christ my only Saviour and redeemer to have all my ???? ???? away and to be made ??? of Life Everlasting and my body to be buried in the Parish Church yards of Ellingham and for my Family burial ground I give them as followeth
The first I give to the parish Church of Ellingham ?? ??? and to the poor of the same parish twenty shillings
Item I give to my wife Margrett during the ??? of her Life the ??? house I now live in Lying in Rockford ??? and the ??? ??? ?? with ?? in her father’s ??? full and wholley to her own ??? of my and the ??? ??? my will and ??? it shall remain after her if the ??? last so long
To my Brother John Rook and my Brother William ??? ??? the oftake
??? I give the ??? of ??? of all of ground ??? wither ??? living at ?innwood in the now ??? and ??? other ??? lying in Rockford ??? by estimation 4 acres ??? ??? or ??? and all ??? of my goods of movable and unmovable withindor and without with now I and ??? of to be equally divided Between my Brother John Rook and my Brother William ??? and the Children of my Brother Philip Rook as my ??? provided always that the Childre of my Brother Philip Rook ??? ?? the ??? of it ??? them ? and my ??? Will is that if my Sister in Law Jane Rook doth not before the dividing of my goods ??? and ??? ??? the ??? that my Brother Phillip Rook did ??? ??? of his ??? Son George Rook that ??? my will is that the children shall ??? ??? or ??? of my goods or chattels ??? them but that my Brother John Rook and my Brother William ???? shall have it all to themselves
Item I give to my Brother Charles Rook the ??? ??? I have in ??? of my ?? to him my love to him
Item I give to my servant John White wood the ??? that I have or forty shillings in money at ??? ???
Item I give to my other servant Joan? Biddlecombe the ??? ??? ??? that I have and this my will is ??? ?? my Last Will in wittnes whereof I have hereunto set my hand the 7th day of February Anno Domini 1644
Signed in the ??? of Stephen the \ mark of Rook
John the \ mark of Whitewood
Joan the \ mark of Biddlecombe
Family added to Ancestry Tree.
Brother John Rook
Brother William ????
Children of Brother Philip Rook
Sister in Law Jane Rook
Son of Brother Philip Rook
Brother Charles Rook
Grand children Dantor
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
Item I gift to my Grand children Elinor Dantor, Iornd Dantor, and Margartt Dantor, and Richard Dantor and to {.....} and {......} of them five pounds lawfull money of England.
Possibly 'and to each and either of them'
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
Grand child Thomas Biddlecomb
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
Item I give to my Grandchild Thomas Biddlecombe five pounds of lawfull money of England.
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
Grand children Biddlecomb
Extract from will pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown
I Christopher Biddlecomb of Hightown ...
Item I give to my Grandchildren Richard Biddlecomb and Elizabeth Biddlecomb and to {.....} and either of them five pounds lawfull money of England
Birth and Baptism
Marriage
Death and Burial
Christopher Biddlecomb
Christopher Biddlecomb or Christofer Bidelcom
Birth and baptism
A potential match for Christopher's baptism.
First name(s) Christofer
Last name Bidelcom
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1571
Baptism date 19 Mar 1571
Place Ringwood
County Hampshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Bidelcom
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Another potential match for Christopher's baptism.
First name(s) Christofer
Last name Bidelcom
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1592
Baptism date 18 Feb 1592
Place Ringwood
County Hampshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Morris
Father's last name Bidelcom
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Marriage
See the tab Christopher Biddlecomb's Wife for thoughts about his marriage.
Death and Burial
Death would have been between writing the will and any codicil and the date of proving the will. If the rule of proving within is applied his death would have been close to the proving date.
Date of Will |
15 July 1647 |
Date of Codicil |
None |
Date of Proving |
26 May 1649 |
Looking at the Hampshire Genealogy Society Burial Records;
Parish of Ringwood, 16 March 1647 Christopher Biddlecombe is one that jumps out on first impression, but that is before the Will was signed.
The above was the result of a search for the parish of Ringwood with a first name starting with Chris and a surname starting with Bid, both to deal with the various spelling of the names encountered in records.
There are no appropriate records here.
Widening the field to the whole of Hampshire, surname starting with Bid, and the year 1648 +/- 1, gave the following result. Again, no matching record.
Perhaps a trip to the Hampshire Records Office in Winchester is required.
Christopher Biddlecomb's Parents
Christopher Biddlecomb's Parents
From the potential baptisms found so far, one to John Bidelcom baptism date 19 Mar 1571 and another to Morris Bidelcom with a baptism date of 18 Feb 1592. That calculates the between baptisms duration as being 20 years, 11 months including the end date.
Given a proving date of the Will of 26 May 1649, which I believe had to be completed within three months of death would result in a date of death of about say 26 March 1649.
The date the Will was written was 15 July 1647
Assuming that in both cases he was baptised at a very young age, at least before his first birthday, if his father was John he would have been 78 years of age at his death and 76 when he wrote the will.
If his father was Morris he would have been 57 years of age at his death and 55 when he wrote the will.
If we consider average generation gaps to be twenty years, Christopher could have married at twenty, and his first child married also at twenty, so he would be forty. Accordingly his first grand child could have been when he was 41 years of age. Christopher appears to have 4 grand children in one family from his Will. This would suggest that he was at least 45 years of age when he wrote the will.
Unfortunately, this exercise did not separate between John and Morris.
Trying something else.
From the HGS marriage records;
27 Jan 1592 Ringwood Christopher Bidelcom Elizabeth Rogers
Well a baptism date of Friday 18 Feb 1592, which is after a marriage date of Thursday, 27 January 1592 by 23 days, I think that conclusively rules out Christopher son of Morris as being married to Elizabeth Rogers. Whereas a baptism date of Monday,19 Mar 1571 would give an intervening period to the marriage date of 20 years 10 months. If he was married at full age, it would indicate that Christopher was born before 26 January 1571.
The probability is therefore that John Bidelcom is his father. There is no indication from this as to who his mother was.
Christopher Biddlecomb's Wife
Christopher Biddlecomb's Wife
A potential Wife for Christopher
First name(s) Christofer
Last name Bidelcom
Name note -
Marriage year 1591
Marriage date 27 Jan 1591
Marriage place Ringwood
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Rogers
Spouse's age -
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
From other Ancestry trees it is suggested that Elizabeth Rogers may be a widow, with a maiden name of Elizabeth Humber, B:11 May 1575 Ringwood, Hampshire, England. Father Henry Humber and husband Robert Rogers who died 25 Sep 1591 Ringwood, Hampshire, England, however, that date of death is after the marriage at the beginning of 1591.
Another potential later life Wife for Christopher
First name(s) Christopher
Last name Bidelcom
Name note -
Marriage year 1622
Marriage date 24 Oct 1622
Marriage place Ringwood
Spouse's first name(s) Cisley
Spouse's last name Bidelcom
Spouse's age -
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
Christopher Biddlecomb's Children
Christopher Biddlecomb's Children
Christopher Biddlecomb's Summary
Christopher Biddlecomb's Summary
Christopher Biddlecomb was ill when he wrote his Will on 15 July 1647. He appears to have died a couple of years later in 1649 as the Will was Proved 26 May 1649
He is a yeoman of either High Town Farm or of the nearby hamlet of High Town, later known as Hightown. All near Ringwood in the County of Hampshire.
Christopher mentions in his will two sons, John and Richard Biddlecomb and a daughter Margaret whose married name was Rook.
He also mentions three sets of named grandchildren.
Baptism for Margaret Biddlecomb, daughter of Christofer Biddlecomb on 25 Mar 1606.
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End of Old Template material pertaining to Christopher Biddlecomb. Not relevant.
Wikipedia
Sir Richard Mill, 5th Baronet (c. 1689 – 16 May 1760) of Woolbeding House, Sussex was a British landowner and politician who sat in the House of Commons between 1721 and 1747.
Mill died on 16 May 1760. He had four sons Richard, John, Henry, and Charles who succeeded to the baronetcy in turn. His five daughters were Margaret, Philadelphia, Elizabeth, Mary and Martha.
The Mill Baronetcy, of Camois Court in the County of Sussex, was a title in the Baronetage of England. It was created on 31 December 1619 for John Mill, subsequently Member of Parliament for Southampton. The third Baronet was High Sheriff of Hampshire in 1685. The fifth Baronet was member of parliament for Midhurst, Penrhyn and Horsham. The sixth Baronet sat as a Knight of the Shire for Hampshire. The title became extinct on the death of the tenth Baronet in 1835.
The National Archives - Camios Court Manor
The National Archives - Mill family, baronets, of Camois Court
Sussex (Camois Court in Trotton, etc) and Hants (Mottisfont, Eling, Longstock, etc) deeds, family and estate papers, incl papers of the predecessor Sandys family, with misc deeds and papers for other counties.
British History Online - Trotton
Catherine Mill, the eldest daughter of Sir Roger Lewknor and Elizabeth, was succeeded before 1587 by her son Lewknor Mill, and he before 1606 by his son John Mill. John was created a baronet in 1619, and in 1664, with Margaret his wife, he conveyed Trotton manor to Ellis Mewet and William Noyes.
This part was also acquired by Lawrence Alcock, whose son Lawrence settled the manor in 1701 on his marriage with Anne Fuller. Lawrence was buried at Trotton in 1723; none of his sons having left issue, Trotton manor passed to his daughters Jane wife of John Radcliffe, and Anne wife of George Bramston. Anne had no children, and George Bramston mortgaged his share of the manor to Samuel Child in 1745, and sold it in 1757 to John Fraine. In the following year Edward Radcliffe bought this part of the manor, £8,680 being paid to Agatha Child, representing the mortgagee, and £975 to Fraine.
Jane Radcliffe died in 1752 and her son John Radcliffe succeeded to the other part of the manor as devisee and heir at law of Arthur Radcliffe brother of Edward, and in 1779 he sold the whole to Thomas Samuel Jolliffe. Jolliffe exchanged the manor for manors in Somerset with Samuel Twyford in 1786, and it was sold by a later Samuel Twyford to Frank Mowatt. He sold it to Reginald Henry Nevill, of Dangstein, whose widow Lady Dorothy Nevill and their eldest son split up the property, most of which, with apparently any surviving manorial rights, was acquired by Lord Leconfield.
The first paragraph links Trotton Manor to John Mill, and the Baronetcy. The last paragraph of this extract links the name Radcliffe to Somerset and Trotton, and Radcliffe is a name that reappears in this story.
Camois Court is often assumed to be near Barcombe Cross and Barcombe, to the North of Lewes in Sussex.
It is understandable as it clearly states Camois Court and Camois Court Farm, circled in blue, near Barcombe Cross.
British History Online does have a mention for Camois Court in the Parish of Barcombe.
Camois Court, on the west side of the road between Barcombe and Barcombe Cross, has 17th-century stopchamfered beams, a contemporary door, and curious twisted columnar newels, two supporting an arch in the hall and a larger one in the staircase. There are others at the Anchor, and Ewhurst, Spithurst. These all appear to have been ship furniture introduced by Sir William Grantham when he reconditioned these houses about the beginning of this century.
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The manor of CAMOYS COURT alias BARKHAM CAMOYS, lying partly in Barcombe, but also in Ditchling and Newick, was probably represented about 1198 by land held by Maud de Bercamp. The overlordship descended with the rape. In the division of the barony in 1439 the 1½ knight's fees formerly held by John de Gadesden, in which this land was included, were divided. Half a fee in Ditchling was assigned to Elizabeth, Lady Bergavenny; (fn. 24) one fee in Bevendean and Barcombe went to the Duke of Norfolk. In 1543, however, Camoys Court was held of the joint owners of the barony, and it still owed suit at the court of Lewes down to 1835 at least.
From Maud de Bercamp the holding passed to her son Ralph de Pierpoint; but William de Pierpoint, who held demesne in Barcombe in 1235, had sold his land there by 1242 to John de Gadesden or Gatesden who was then holding 3 knights' fees in 'Bercompe'. John married Hawise Savage, widow of John de Nevill, in about 1246 and died in 1262. Hawise died about 1269. The marriage of John's grand-daughter and heiress Margaret was granted to Robert Waleraund. In or about 1279 Margaret married Sir John de Camoys but deserted him for William Paynel, whom she married after Sir John's death in 1298. Margaret died about January 1311 and her son Ralph de Camoys was holding land in the vill of Barcombe in 1316. On his death in 1336 his lands passed to his son Thomas, who died without issue in 1372 holding the reversion of the manor, after the death of William de Mallynge, jointly with his wife Margaret. She was still holding them in 1386. Sir Thomas de Camoys, his nephew, succeeded him. In 1412 his lands in Barcombe were worth £5 a year and in 1428 were assessed as ¼ knight's fee. He died in 1421, and was succeeded by his grandson Hugh, then aged seven, on whose death in 1426 the Camoys property descended to his sisters, Margaret, wife of Ralph Radmylde, and Eleanor, wife of Roger Lewknor of Trotton. Ralph Radmylde survived Margaret and died in 1443, when her half of the manor passed to their son Robert, then aged 18. Robert was succeeded in 1457 by a son William, a child of 6, but this part of the manor appears soon to have passed to Roger Lewknor, in whose family the whole manor descended. At this date the manor was still known as Barcombe, but later it acquired the name Camoys Court. From Roger it passed to his son Sir Thomas Lewknor of Trotton in 1478, and in 1484 to his grandson Sir Roger, when the male line died out in 1543. The manor then descended for a time in the same way as Warningore, being divided among Roger's three infant daughters—Katherine, who married first John Mill, and secondly, William Morgan; Mabel, wife of Anthony Stapley; and Constance, wife first of Thomas Foster and then of Edward Glemham. By 1587 Katherine's third had descended to Lewknor Mill, her grandson by her first husband. Mabel and her husband had evidently died without issue, for thereafter the manor descended in two portions, one half in the Mill family and the other in the Fosters, descendants of Constance by her first husband. The first half remained with Sir John Mill, bart. (son of Lewknor), and his descendants until 1666, when it was sold to William Lane, whose daughter Elizabeth married John Smith of Hamsey. In 1709 the children of John Smith, William, Ann, and Abigail Smith sold it to Thomas Medley of Conyborough in Barcombe. This portion included the 'piece of arable land whereupon the ancient seat or mansion house called Camois Court formerly stood'. It remained in the Medley family and descended with the main manor of Barcombe until, at least, 1835.
At this point I realise that I have some of these names on my main Family Tree. I have been building a Mill family tree in the background as I explore this dynasty, on my Research Tree. I must now transfer this to my main tree and link it to the people there to establish my very very remote relationship.
I am not expecting to become landed gentry as a result.
The Milne Map of Hampshire 1791
Grove House, also Known as Grove Place, Nutshelling, is associated with Sir Charles Mill. (Circled in blue)
Sir Richard Mill of Grove Place Bart is associated to Property 322
John Mill Esqr., is associated to Property 332
John Mills Esqr., Bentley is associated to Property 333.