Hurst families in North West Hampshire
Initially looking at the surnames of Hurst, including variation Hearst and Hirst, as part of my One Name Study of Hurst.
Using Hampshire Genealogical Society Indexes of Baptism, Mariages, and Burial records I will try to identify the extent of this task. How many Hurst surnames are there in Hampshire and what is the distribution both in the location and time.
The records are input into my TNG database and the information is displayed below in the form of reports, according to area / parish.
The settings for the below reports are; Tree, Hurst One Name Study, Last Name, Hurst, Hearst, or Hirst, with Place as shown in the report title.
The place search is inclusive, so for Andover for instance it will include 'Andover', 'Andover Parish', '????, Andover, Hampshire', and '????, nr. Andover', in fact anything that contains 'Andover'. In the case of Alton for instance, it will include Alton in Staffordshire as in my opinion it is better to know about some possibly misplaced data and discount it than not even know about the potential.
The reports are real time dynamic, with perhaps a page refresh this side.
Click on a name or place to get more information about them. You can also enter the full database by using the Home button in the blue section at the top of the report. Don't worry about returning to the report, just refresh the page on this side and it will revert to normal.
The reports are sorted into first name order. The same person can appear in the report numerous times based on the number of events associated with that person.
For instance, residence. I have made an assumption that in the early years of the data, that parent(s) reside in the parish that their child was baptised in, This is a way of ensuring that the parent appears in the report as both their baptism and marriage, may be before those records were kept, or are available. Four children baptised would result in four residence events, on the date of the baptism.
Unless otherwise stated I have assumed that baptism is soon after birth.
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Overview
The map below gives some indication of the places found in the HGS Baptism Index of 1537 to 1659. As a number of the places are near Andover I will start there.
Andover
Weyhill, Andover
Abbotts Ann, Andover
Abbotts Ann
Information about Abbotts Ann from GENUKI.
Abbotts Ann Hurst Hub
Abbotts Ann appears to be quite the hub of families with the surname Hurst.
I the Hampshire Genealogical Society Baptism Index between 1537 - 1659, there are 75 records, which is a lot for a small rural parish.
There are 14 baptism records where the fathers first name is William. All between 1563 and 1616. Now it all becomes somewhat theoretical as there is no clear break in baptisms to suggest different parents, but also it is unlikely to be the same William for the whole period. Initially I have split the 14 children into three family groups. Mothers are not listed in the baptism information at the time, which would have potentially helped separate the families. I have added the names to Ancestry to see if there is anybody else researching them. Sometimes somebody has access to a family bible which gives more information than just the parish records can ever do.
Harry Hurst Church Warden of Abbotts Ann, near Andover, Hampshire, England, 1562
First noticed in the Parish Register manuscript, at the time when Elizabeth I was on the throne of England,
Richard Muckleton
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John Grunsell |
First seen on a page for 1562.
Presumably a respected member of the community, and possibly an elder. This may be the only reference to this person until his burial.
However, going back to the title page, there appears to be a memorandum from September 1599.
The top of the page reads, This is the ???? Register booke of Abbotts Ann in County of Southampton.
I have zoomed in on the text and highlighted Harry Hurst name, as church warden and build ... a pulpit. I think he approved the building of the pulpit but I can't make out who was the doner.
It does suggest that a Harry Hurst was a church warden both in 1562 and 1599, 37 years later.
Hurst Families Abbotts Ann
Hurst families of Abbotts Ann, near Andover, Hampshire, England.
The county that is now known as Hampshire was for a period of time known as the County of Southampton or Southamptonshire, which is distinct for the Town, latterly City (1964) of Southampton.
is the Register booke of Abbots Ann xxxx xxxx those married Baptized and funerals xxxx common xxx in the xxx of our Lord God Anno 1561.
xxxx fo the late Statutes for that xxx made and provided in the XXXIX year of the Reign of our most gracious and Sovereign lady Elizabeth, by the grace of God of England, France and Ireland, Queene, defender of the faith, ec, and in the xxxx of Richard Murkleston, Minster those.
The English monarchy maintained their claim to the French throne until 1802, following the French Revolution 1789-1799 which resulted in France becoming a Republic.
The Act being referred to is for Elizabeth I regnal year, XXXIX, or thirty nine, is 1596/7 AD.
Read a little of the history of Act for the Keeping of Parish Registers.
Location
Further maps of Abbotesan, aka Abbots Ann aka Abbotts Ann.
The process
The Abbotts Ann families are going to be a significant challenge to separate into distinct families from the early baptism records.
The process is going to be slow and long. The dataset is already established in My TNG database. Then the first part for Abbotts Ann is to create a SQL report within My TNG, which focuses on any of the place fields containing Abbots Ann. I don't want to restrict it to just Abbotts Ann Parish as that would exclude any potential more specific addresses, perhaps gained from Census or Tithe Apportionment data. That report is then embedded into a Joomla Article Hurst families in North West Hampshire as a live dynamic report.
So to the data. On the Hampshire Genealogical Society Baptism Index, set the filter to surname Hurst and Parish, Abbotts Ann. Then choose a father's forename to further filter by.
Now the magic happens. Say the filter is set for William. There are twenty baptisms where the father's name is William or W between 1563 and 1616, a period of 53 years. Unlikely to be all the same father, but not impossible, with multiple wife's, sequentially. Without twins, possibly one child per year, perhaps every other year. Repeating children names, may be and indicator of a different group, but not necessarily as, with a high infant mortality, names are often reused following infant deaths. So it comes down to inspecting the dates, looking for gaps, that may suggest different generations, and estimating the family groups at this initial stage. Accepting that they may have to change if further, contradictory, information comes to light later. Some would put all the baptisms against one or multiple William's, and others, from a pure data perspective, there is no evidence that there are not twenty separate father's called William, which would give one baptism one father, one family relationship, Possible but improbable.
The baptism records are added to My TNG database. Check that the same information flows through to the Joomla article report, and check that it has been input correctly my me.
Add the same information into my 'work in progress' Ancestry tree as an unattached or orphaned branch, using the same assumed family groups.
Check for other users researching the same people and check for any DNA matches to those researchers.
Find the base data for the baptisms in the Ancestry information, and hopefully find images of the source data.
If so make copies of the source data and prepare the images for incorporation in this article as base data.
Using the found source data, create a new transcription direct from the source data, compare and check for transcription errors. Such as the year has changed in March but the original document has not recorded it, resulting in an incorrect year going into the record. Perhaps therefore, apparently making two children in the same year, born too close together, but not twins, and therefore a different family. Also, looking for additional information on the source data which did not make it into the transcribed data.
Update the Mt TNG database and Ancestry with any necessary amendments.
Update article with the new information to be read in conjunction with the TNG generated report.
Rest ....
Repeat
For the early years of the Parish records I don't expect to find any data other than Baptism, Marriage, and Burial, and little or nothing to join those records together. In later year there is potential for additional information, and further searches will be made in other Genealogical Sites, Tithe Apportionments, Directories, Voting registers, and Newspapers.
On a single page of the Abbotts Ann register, on page 5, refiring to Anno Domini 1596 baptisms.
There are 5 baptisms out of 21 on the page. That is nearly 25% of the baptisms are to the surname Hurst. This gives some indication of the presence of Hurst families in the community. Perhaps not 25% but not insignificant.
Childs Name | Son / Daughter | Baptism Date | Parish Church | Father's name | Adjusted Year |
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Brygil Hurst | Daughter | 26 Oct 1565 | Abbotts Ann, Hampshire, England | Roger Hurst | 1565 |
Thomas Hurst | Son | 7 Feb 1565 | Abbotts Ann, Hampshire, England | Thomas Hurst | 1565 |
Joane Hurst | Daughter | 22 Jan 1565 | Abbotts Ann, Hampshire, England | Henry Hurst | 1565 |
Dorothie Hurst | Daughter | 27 Jul 1565 | Abbotts Ann, Hampshire, England | William Hurst | 1566 |
Margery Hurst | Daughter | 22 Nov 1565 | Abbotts Ann, Hampshire, England | Roger Hurst | 1566 |
From the above it could be that the father Roger Hurst could be the same person which would make it four families of Hurst just in one page of the register.
I think I will organise the baptism records by father's Christian Name, below.
The records
Baptism
Father Roger Hurst
Records where the Father is called Roger Hurst
Thomas
We look to the second record of the new Register, in 1561.
Thomas the son of Roger Hurst was baptised the 20 of December 1561.
Roger
Roger the son of Roger Hurst was Baptized the 26 of May 1563.
Margery
Margery the Daughter of Roger Hurst 22 of November 1566.
Father William Hurst
Father Thomas Hurst
Father Henry Hurst
Father Richard Hurst
Father Harry Hurst
Father John Hurst
Father Robert Hurst
Father Peter Hurst
Marriage
...
Burrial
...
TNG Generated Report
Goodworth Clatford, Andover
Nether Wallop, Stockbridge
Broughton, Stockbridge
Houghton, Stockbridge
East Tytherley, Stockbridge
Michelmersh, Romsey
Romsey
Hursley, Winchester
Winchester
Alresford
Alton
Sherfield on Loddon
OLD METHOD AREA
Baptisms
Baptism Index 1537 -1659
Baptism Index 1660-1751
Baptism Index 1752-1812
The entry with the red highlight is actually a record of being received into the congregation, with the private baptism having been on 6 Nov 1756.
The entry with the blue highlight is actually a record of being received into the congregation, with the private baptism having been on 28 Aug 1790.
Baptism Index 1813 - 1841
Also, with the father as Abraham Hurst.
Baptism Index 1842 - 1874
Marriages
Marriage Index 1538-1659
Outside scope
Marriage Index 1660-1753
Marriage Index 1754-1837
Burials
Burial Index 1400-1837
Total 6 burials
Burial Index 1838-1841
No matches to search
Below embedded map using the above found information. To read this ArcGIS StoryMap in its own page click StoryMap of Abraham Hurst of Hampshire. If the parish boundaries don't show automatically on the second map, zoom in a little more.