DNA path 4th 3rd and 2nd cousin via Bignell

 

 

Edwin Leonard Page

Born 25 Jan 1902

 

 

From Alice Blanche Page wedding newspaper clipping, 'The bride, who was dressed in white crystalline silk, was given away by her brother, Mr. Edwin Page.'

 

Edwin Leonard Page born 25^th Jan 1902 to Edwin & Florence Page of 12 Weston Terrace, Notting Hill, a Milkman, was baptised at St Mary's Bolton Parish Church in the county of London, on 30^th Mar 1902.

 

OS 25 Old Map Fulham St Mary Boltons Church - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

The church, St Mary's Boltons, is located south of Old Brompton Road.  I assume that the address recorded in the baptism record is not local as it is notated with Notting Hill. Generally, on the rest of the page, there are no such notations.

 

Davies Map 1841 Notting Hill - Underground Map

 Finding Weston Terrace, Notting Hill is more problematic. The above 1841 map indicates how small Notting Hill was just 60 years before he was born there. Notting Hill was part of the Parish of Kensington, North of Holland House and Park. The source of that map, TheUndergroundMap.org has a brilliant selection of maps, for different periods. 

I have managed to find a Weston Place, but not yet a Weston Terrace. It is possible that Weston Terrace is the name of a block of buildings instead of a road. I searched the Census pages for Weston using FindMyPast I found a Weston Place in Marylebone, but no Weston Terrace.

 

 On 17 Sept 1907 Page Edward Leonard joined the Langford Road Infants School. His date of birth was recorded as 26 1 02, with his father's name being Edwin of 43 Hazlebury R^d

On 6 12 07, he was removed from school. 

 

OS 25 Old Map Langford Road School Fulham - London (Edition of 1894-96) C Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

 OS 25 Old Map Hazelbury Road Fulham - London (Edition of 1894-96) C Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

 

Census, England, 1911

 

From the Ashford School records, of the family of interest, only Edwin Page and Jack Page were still at the School at the time of the 1911 Census. Alice was discharged on  11^th Dec 1909, whilst the boys were discharged on 16^th Nov 1912 and 20^th Oct 1911 respectively.

 

Census, England, 1921

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

George Waters	Head	32	7	M	Married	North End Road Fulham West Kensington	--		Engineers Turner	William Randall Laundry Engineers	William Randall Vulcan Works Barnes
Florence Waters	Wife	38	9	F	Married	First Street, Chelsea	--		Home Duties		At Home
Alice Page	Step Daughter	17	3	F	Single	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Junior Clerk	Sketchley Dye Works	Sketchley Dye Works Knightsbridge
Bert Page	Step Son	13	2	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--	Whole time
Jack Page	Step Son	15	4	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Errand Boy	Fulham Football Grounds	Fulham Football Grounds
Ted Page	Step Son	19	5	M	Father Dead	Notting Hill London	--		Steward on Ships	No fixed place	On Board Ship

 

 

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

	Assumed to be				DoB from Age	Current presumption of DoB	Match	Notes
George Waters	George Waters	32	7	M	1888	ABT 1874	No
Florence Waters	Florence Gertrude Waters, previously Page, nee Lockwood	38	9	F	1882	28 MAR 1877	No
Alice Page	Alice Blanche Page	17	3	F	1904	5 MAR 1904	Yes
Bert Page	Albert James Page	13	2	M	1908	24 APR 1908	Yes
Jack Page	Frederick Jack Page	15	4	M	1906	6 FEB 1906	Yes
Ted Page	Edward Leonard Page	19	5	M	1902	26 JAN 1902	Yes

 

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 

 

 

 

 

 

St Matthew, Fulham: Wandsworth Bridge Road

1924
No 177
Banns of Marriage between		Edward Leonard Page (Bachelor)
	and	Alice Ada Clements (Spinster)			Both of this parish
were published on the three Sundays underwritten:, as follows:
That is to say,	1st, On Sunday,	the September 21st	)
	2d, On Sunday,	the September 28th	}	October	by M Upwood
	3d, On Sunday,	the October 5th	)

 

  

1924	Marriage solemnized at		S. Mathews Church in the parish of Fulham in the County of London
No. 490
October 18th 1924	Edward Leonard Page  23 Batchelor	Steward	106 Townmead Road		Edward Page	Deceased
	and
	Alice Ada Clements 24 Spinster		106 Townmead Road		Frederick Clements	Engineer
	were Married in this Church by	Banns this	29 Day of October in the Year One Thousand seven Hundred and Sixty	by me	Ed: Morris	Rector
Married in the	Ch of S Mathew		according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church	by		or after
					Banns
	This Marriage was solemnized between us		Edward Leonard Page	by me	M Upwood
			Alice Ada Clements
	In the Presence of		Henry Arthur Clements
			Alice Maud Goodwin
	18 Oct 1924

 

 

OS 25 Old Map Fulham Town Mead Road - London (Edition of 1894-96) C Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

A time of great change. Just the spine road, Town Mead Road, of a new housing estate at the date of the above map. Soon to be filled with houses.

Part of Town Mead Road and St Mathew's Church.

 

The Underground Map Fulham 1950 Townmead Road

 

 

 106 Town Mead Road, in current mapping. Probably the one before end of terrace. From the style of the building, this could be the actual building he lived in with his family.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alice Blanche Page

Born 6^th March 1904.

 

 Baptism

Alice Blanche Page was baptised on May 8th, 1904 at St. Andrew's Church, Fulham by Charles E Curzon, to parents Edwin & Florence Gertrude Page of 63 Dieppe Street. His occupation is stated as Traveller. She was born March 6th 1904.

 OS 25" Map Dieppe Street Fulham - London (Edition of 1894-96) LXXXVI Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

 Brought forward from the Ashford School tab, Alice Page was aged 4 years 11 months on admission and 5 years 9 months on discharge, a duration of 288 days, between 27^th February 1909 and 11^th December 1909. Her date of birth is recorded as 4th March 1904. Her mother, Florence was living at 113 Harwood Road Fulham.

Which although not the same as the baptism record, it is only 2 days different.

 

 Census, England, 1921

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

George Waters	Head	32	7	M	Married	North End Road Fulham West Kensington	--		Engineers Turner	William Randall Laundry Engineers	William Randall Vulcan Works Barnes
Florence Waters	Wife	38	9	F	Married	First Street, Chelsea	--		Home Duties		At Home
Alice Page	Step Daughter	17	3	F	Single	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Junior Clerk	Sketchley Dye Works	Sketchley Dye Works Knightsbridge
Bert Page	Step Son	13	2	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--	Whole time
Jack Page	Step Son	15	4	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Errand Boy	Fulham Football Grounds	Fulham Football Grounds
Ted Page	Step Son	19	5	M	Father Dead	Notting Hill London	--		Steward on Ships	No fixed place	On Board Ship

 

 

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

	Assumed to be				DoB from Age	Current presumption of DoB	Match	Notes
George Waters	George Waters	32	7	M	1888	ABT 1874	No
Florence Waters	Florence Gertrude Waters, previously Page, nee Lockwood	38	9	F	1882	28 MAR 1877	No
Alice Page	Alice Blanche Page	17	3	F	1904	5 MAR 1904	Yes
Bert Page	Albert James Page	13	2	M	1908	24 APR 1908	Yes
Jack Page	Frederick Jack Page	15	4	M	1906	6 FEB 1906	Yes
Ted Page	Edward Leonard Page	19	5	M	1902	26 JAN 1902	Yes

 

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 

 Wedding of Alice Blanche Page and John W Greenaway

 

Interesting Wedding Ceremony at St Johns - Chelsea News Kensington and Chelsea, London, England · Friday 27 March 1925

 

 Transcription of adjacent newspaper clipping, dated sometime after 19xx.

INTERESTING WEDDING.

CEREMONY AT ST. JOHN'S.

A pretty wedding was solemnised at St. John's Church, Chelsea, on Saturday, the Rev. Carey Ward officiating, when the contracting parties were Miss Alice Blanche Page, only daughter by her first marriage of Mrs. Walters, of 13 Dartrey-road, Chelsea, and Mr. John W. Greenaway, of 32 Worlds End-passage, Chelsea. The bride, who was dressed in white crystalline silk, was given away by her brother, Mr. Edwin Page. The bridesmaids were the Misses Gosling, Miss Annie Butler, and Miss Winnie Fames, and they wore blue and mauve dresses. Mr. Fred Dowding was the best man. After the wedding a reception was held at 13 Dartrey-road. Presents were received from the following:-Bride's Mother and Father, dinner service; bridegroom's Mother and Father, blankets; Mr. Fred Dowding, mats and fire screen; Mr. Page, trinket set; Mr. and Mrs. Eames, hearth rug; Mrs. Drury, picture; Mr. and Mrs. Blee, crockery and glass ware; Mrs. Page and Miss Clements (sisters), quilt: Mr. H. Clements and Miss A. Hunt, tea pot, jug and basin: Mr. and Mrs. Chilton, duchesse set and tea cosy; Mrs. Noyes, glass dishes; Mrs. Slough, fruit dish; Mrs. Butler, Mr. and Mrs. Day, pictures; Mr. and Mrs. Saunders, rose bowl; bride's employers and employees, mirror, chair, and fender; Miss Edie Clements, salt cellars ; and Mr. and Mrs. Scott, coal caldron. Miss Gearing, of Wandsworth Bridge- road, Fulham, supplied the bouquets.

 

Alice Blanche Page, only daughter by her first marriage of Mrs. Walters, of 13 Dartrey-road, Chelsea, and Mr. John W. Greenaway, of 32 Worlds End-passage, Chelsea.

 

The bride, who was dressed in white crystalline silk, was given away by her brother, Mr. Edwin Page.

Unfortunately, it looks as if the paper was being removed from the scanner slightly too early, resulting in the blurred effect.

The Marriage record matches the newspaper clipping.

Of note, only daughter of her first marriage.

 

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Albert James Page

 

 Census, England, 1921

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

George Waters	Head	32	7	M	Married	North End Road Fulham West Kensington	--		Engineers Turner	William Randall Laundry Engineers	William Randall Vulcan Works Barnes
Florence Waters	Wife	38	9	F	Married	First Street, Chelsea	--		Home Duties		At Home
Alice Page	Step Daughter	17	3	F	Single	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Junior Clerk	Sketchley Dye Works	Sketchley Dye Works Knightsbridge
Bert Page	Step Son	13	2	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--	Whole time
Jack Page	Step Son	15	4	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Errand Boy	Fulham Football Grounds	Fulham Football Grounds
Ted Page	Step Son	19	5	M	Father Dead	Notting Hill London	--		Steward on Ships	No fixed place	On Board Ship

 

 

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW

	Assumed to be				DoB from Age	Current presumption of DoB	Match	Notes
George Waters	George Waters	32	7	M	1888	ABT 1874	No
Florence Waters	Florence Gertrude Waters, previously Page, nee Lockwood	38	9	F	1882	28 MAR 1877	No
Alice Page	Alice Blanche Page	17	3	F	1904	5 MAR 1904	Yes
Bert Page	Albert James Page	13	2	M	1908	24 APR 1908	Yes
Jack Page	Frederick Jack Page	15	4	M	1906	6 FEB 1906	Yes
Ted Page	Edward Leonard Page	19	5	M	1902	26 JAN 1902	Yes

 

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 

 

 

Albert James Page

B:24 April 1908 Fulham Walham Green, London, England

 

 

Chelsea News 1925 02 20 8

 The person named, the address of 13 Dartrey Road, and his age 16, suggesting a year of birth of about 1909 provide a high confidence that the person in the article is the same as that in the family of interest.

 

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 

 

 

Lily Minnie Carr

Born 19 Nov 1883

 

 

 

Register of Births Q4 1883. Carr, Lillie Minnie, Islington 1 b. 432

Slight variance of name between registration and baptism. Lillie v. Lily.

 

Baptised at St Mary, Islington: Upper Street, Islington, on 10 Feb 1884, having been born on 19 Nov 1883, Lily Minnie, daughter of Henry George & Elizabeth Lydia Car of Hannover Street, the father's occupation, a Clerk.

OS 25 Old Map Islington St Marys Church - London (Edition of 1894-96) XXXIX Revised: 1894, Published: 1897

 

OS 25 Old Map Hanover Street St George Hanover Square - London (1915- Numbered sheets) V.9 Revised: 1914, Published: 1934

 It is interesting to note that the Baptism Record has a abode of Hanover Street, without annotation that it is a different parish, and that the Hanover Street near Hanover Square is about 3 miles, just over an hour walk, to the church chosen for the baptism of Lily Minnie Carr.

OS 25 Old Map Hanover Street Islington - London (1915- Numbered sheets) V.6 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 A much more likely Hanover Street. Now known as Noel Road, probably as a result of the exercise to remove duplicate street names. The distance to St Mary's church from hear is only half a mile, a 12 minute walk. 

 

Census 1891

 

Census of England and Wales 1891

Islington - Highbury

Enumeration District No. 37

Sometimes, in Census records there is very little information about the individual roads or places. Fortunately, on this occasion both the roads are recorded as well as the house numbers. However, the street names are not written clearly enough to be able to find then on a map by searching. Perhaps City something. Is that City Road, City Garden Row, or something different. Flip pages to find adjacent roads. That sometimes resolves the location. Other times it can be necessary to go to the front of the district census record to the notes and the enumerator's route description. That is exactly what I have done this time.

Commence Hornsey Road East Side from GNR Bridge to Upper Tollington Roud 44 to 152 (40) Citizen Rd all (49) Harvist Rd, all, & Tenby Villa (48) Harvist Mews (15) and Upper Tollington Rd Part ?? 1a HG ?? (13)

(All above in St Barnabas Ecal District)

Tollington Road Right Side from Hornsey Rd 78 to 2 (39) (Emmanuel Ecal District).

 

Islington, St Barnabas, Harvist Road, Hornsey Road (Harvist Estate is now off Citizen Road)[1866] closed 1947, demolished 1966. 1945 Parish united to Emmanuel. 1953 parish divided, part to Emmanuel, part to St. Mary Magdalene.
SAINT BARNABAS, HORNSEY ROAD, HORNSEY ROAD, ISLINGTON. in LMA database
Parish is no. 14 on outline map, at grid reference TQ311860

Islington, Emmanuel, Hornsey Road [1886] still open, part of the Tollington Team Ministry.
EMMANUEL, HORNSEY ROAD, HORNSEY ROAD, ISLINGTON in LMA database
Parish is no. 13 on outline map, at grid reference TQ308861

I have not yet located Tenby Villa. With 48 homes it is likely to be a block of flats / tenements called Tenby Villas, as opposed to a street name.

 An 1860 map of the area shows how rural the place was, mainly fields.

Zoom in to the area just north west  of our census area. You can see the profile use of Villas and Terraces in the area of Tollington Place.

 

 An approximation of the area of the District 37 1891 Census with the yellow box. Not the actual boundary, just a placeholder. In 1860, almost all fields.

 

 Move forward a mere twenty years and the area is entirely developed. The fields have gone. The area now shown as a yellow triangle.

There is a 1890 version of the mapping, to nearly match the Census year of 1891, but it is less clear but with similar information, so I have chosen not to use it.

You may have noticed that clicking each map takes you to the same article on their website. You then have to navigate to the area, near the Emirates Stadium using the 2025 mapping, before choosing which year, using the stack of paper icon on the top right corner.

Back to the OS 25" Mapping.

OS 25 Old Map Islington District 37 Enumerators route - London (Edition of 1894-96) XXIX Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

 This is an approximation of the Enumerators Route for District 37 of the 1891 Census. It is not comprehensive, but it is sufficient to give an idea of the area, and most importantly to confirm the street names within the Census. Including Citizen Road, the address of our family in question.

 The map was revised in 1893 to 1894, so is probably quite similar to the layout of the 1891 Census.

 

Extract of Highbury Islington Census, for 32 Citizen Road.

Name	Relation to Head	Condition	Age (M)	Age (F)	Occupation	Employer	Employed	?	Where Born	Disability
Henry G Carr	Head	M	31		Drapers Clerk		X		London Hoxton
Elizabeth L Carr	Wife	M		27					London Holloway
Minnie L Carr	Daur			7					London Holloway
George J Carr	Son		5						London Holloway
Ellen E Carr	Daur			3					London Hornsey
Herbert H Carr	Son		1						London Holloway

 

The family lived in a multi-occupancy building, as were the neighbouring houses.

 

 

 

Some Ancestry Trees record a marriage to Lillie Minne Carr on 18 Nov 1928 in Fulham, London.

 There is a problem here. Albert James Page did indeed marry Lillie Minnie Carr. He was a 39 year old Widower, and she a 44 year old Spinster. That would make their years of birth approximately 1889 and 1884 respectively.

 Part of the 1939 Register, for 31 Ravenscourt Road Hammersmith. Page Albert J born either 14 Oct 1889 or 19 10 1889. This matches The marriage record.

 

Another red herring. An Albert James Page did marry Lily Minnie Carr on 18 Nov 1928 in Fulham, London, but not this Albert James Page.

That Albert James Page was born in the year 1889 and this one 1908. Also, the groom's father is shown as William Page when the expected name would be Edwin or Edward Page.

 

Accordingly, I have created another Albert James Page, an older person, in my tree, and this one is single again, at twenty years of age.

 

 

Peggy Ethel Malcher

Born 15 Feb 1918

 

Marriage to Albert James Page

 

Marriages Registered in Quarter 2 1938

Melcher, Peggy E.   Page   Fulham  1 a 893

 

 

 

St John's Church, Walham Green Fulham: Belmoth Place, North End Road

1938     Page 53
No 157
Banns of Marriage between		Albert James Page (Bachelor)			of this parish
	and	Peggy Ethel Malcher (Spinster)			S Oswald's Fulham
were published on the three Sundays underwritten:, as follows:
That is to say,	1st, On Sunday,	March 6	)
	2d, On Sunday,	March 13	}	October	by HPG
	3d, On Sunday,	March 20	)

 

  

1938	Marriage solemnized at		St. John's Church in the parish of Fulham in the County of London
No. 80
April 17th 1938	Albert James Page  27 Batchelor	Paint Sprayer	44  Tournay Road SW 6		Edwin Page	Deceased
	and
	Peggy Ethel Melcher 20 Spinster		50 Estcount Road SW 6		Albert Ernest Malcher	Rly [Railway] Booking Clerk
	were Married in this Church by	Banns this	29 Day of October in the Year One Thousand seven Hundred and Sixty	by me	Ed: Morris	Rector
Married in the	Church		according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Church of England	by		or after
					Banns
	This Marriage was solemnized between us		Albert James Page	by me	B. G. Morgan Smith	Curate
			Peggy Ethel Malcher
	In the Presence of		E Page
			A E Malcher
	17 Apr 1938

 

 

OS 25 Old Map Fulham Tourney Road - https://maps.nls.uk/view/101919849

The Groom's residence on the record of marriage may be Tourney Road, i.e. 44 Tourney Road S.W. 6. This is not a firm interpretation of the record, but a possible suggestion. 

 OS 25 Old Map Fulham Estcourt Road - London (Edition of 1894-96) LXXXVI Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

 The bride's address, 50 Estcourt Road, Fulham.

 

From the Banns,

This Parish

St John, Melmoth Place, Walham Green (North End Road/Vanston Place) [1828] - still open
see SAINT JOHN, WALHAM GREEN, HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM for registers at LMA
Parish is no. 9 on outline map

 S Oswald's Fulham

St Oswald, Lillie Road/St.Anselms Road [1899, Lillie Road Mission 1884] closed and demolished 1970s, parish united to St.Augustine's.
see SAINT OSWALD, ANSELM ROAD, ANSELM ROAD, HAMMERSMITH AND FULHAM for registers at LMA
Parish is no. 6 on outline map

 

GENUKI Parishes of Fulham in 1903

Very approximate overlay of the two images

 

 

 

St Oswald's Road appears to be in St Oswald's parish, not surprisingly, and the associated church may have been the Mission Hall at the end of the road.

OS 25 Old Map Fulham St Oswald's Road - London (Edition of 1894-96) LXXXVI Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897 

 The Banns state the bride's parish as being S Oswald's Fulham, however, the Marriage record gives her address as 50 Estcourt Road. An address found elsewhere in her records. It appears that about half of Estcourt Road is within St Oswald's Parish by reference to the sketch of Parishes, and number 50 may be about the middle, having counted the number of buildings on the map. Conclusion, the information matches.

The groom's information is easier, as Tourney Road and St. John's Church are clearly both in the same parish and are on the same clip of map above.

 

 

Birth and Baptism

 

Baptised at St John, Walham Green, London, in the year One thousand, nine hundred and eighteen, on 17th March 1918, having been born on Sept 13th 1914, Gladys Josephine Mable, daughter of Albert Ernest and Josephine Philippa Malcher of 50 Estcourt Road, the father's occupation, a Booking Clerk D.R^y. No 298. [Could be District Railway aka Metropolitan District Railway, latterly District Line, London Underground]

 Together with her sister,

Baptised at St John, Walham Green, London, in the year One thousand, nine hundred and eighteen, on 17th March 1918, having been born on Feby 15th 1918, Peggy Ethel, daughter of Albert Ernest and Josephine Philippa Malcher of 50 Estcourt Road, the father's occupation, a Booking Clerk D.R^y. No 298. [Could be District Railway aka Metropolitan District Railway, latterly District Line, London Underground]

Note the date of birth has been transcribed elsewhere as July 15th 1918, but hat is clearly impossible, as the birth would therefore have been after the baptism. Either the month or the year have been mis-interpreted. By reference to other documents, I have concluded that the month is not July but Feby, otherwise Feb^y or February in full.

 

1939 Register

 

 The 1939 register, taken in preparation for WWII, and continued to be updated after the war, provides interesting information. The Malcher family is still residing at 50 Estcourt Road, Fulham. Albert and Josephine with four females, at least some of which are married daughters. Another record is officially closed, i.e. living at the time of the release of the information, In the same. building but different household are the Good family. Another Good family lives, as co-occupant, at 48 Estcourt Road.

Peggy has married Page, which we know from above.

Her sister Gladys, baptised at the same time, has married a Lewis. There are two single women, with the surname Franklin, Vera E and Eileen D. The former married a Good, after the register was first compiled. The respective husbands are not currently shown.

I have started to build a Franklin Branch, which links to the Good family, but not necessarily to the same Good family, but have not yet found a link to the Malcher family other than they lived at the same address.

Perhaps the link is to do with dressmaking.

 

1939 Register - Fulham

Address	Schedule		Surnames and Other Names	O V S P or I	M or F	Birth		S M W or D	Personal Occupation
	No	Sub No				Day	Year
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
48 Estcourt Rd	73	1	Davis Annie	-	F	28 Jul	88	M	Unpaid Domestic Duties
		2	Collin John B	-	M	2 Feb	93	W	Carpenter & Joiner
			This record is officially closed
			This record is officially closed
	74	1	Good William H	-	M	26 Aug	94	M	Wood Machinist
		2	Good Daisy H	-	F	12 Sept	96	M	Unpaid Domestic Duties
		3	Good Herbert S	-	M	26 Dec	23	S	Motor Mechanic (Improver)
		4	Good Ronald L	-	M	12 Nov	26	S	At School
50 Estcourt Rd	75	1	Good George F	-	M	22 Sept	84	M	Coal Carmen Heavy Worker
		2	Good Kathleen C	-	F	5 Feb	10	M	Unpaid Domestic Duties
			This record is officially closed
			This record is officially closed
	76	1	Malcher Albert E	-	M	11 Jun	87	M	Senior Booking Clerk Rly
		2	Malcher Josephine P	-	F	17 Aug	88	M	Unpaid Domestic Duties
		3	Lewis Gladys J M	-	F	13 Sept	14	M	Dressmaking
		4	Good nee Franklin Vera E	-	F	18 Jan	16	S	Dressmaking
		5	Page Peggy E	-	F	15 Feb	18	M	Unpaid Domestic Duties
		6	Franklin Eileen D	-	F	25 Jun	18	S	Underclothes Maker
			This record is officially closed

 

Conundrum resolved. 

 

 

Compiling the story from various sources.

From the 1921 Census the Franklin family lived at 50 Estcourt Road, Fulham.

The family consisted of Eva Franklin, the head of the family. The wife of an unknown person in respect of the Census, but apparently living abroad.

Together with her children, a son, Charles John Franklin, age 7 years, 11 months, therefore born 1913.

Two daughters, Vera Evelyn Franklin, age 5 years, 5 months, therefore born 1916 and Eileen Dora Franklin, age 2 years, 11 months, therefore born 1918.

From other sources the children's Dates and Places of Births were,  Vera; Birth 18 January 1916 • Fulham, Middlesex, England, and Eileen; Birth 25 June 1918 • Crediton, Devon, England.

I don't yet have a Date and Place of Birth for Charles.

It is possible that Charles John Franklin was named after his father. There is a marriage recorded between a Charles John Franklin and Eva Andrews in 1912 at Fulham. This could be the missing father.

The newspaper article states that Vera's mother died some years ago, which could be the case.

There are also records of Eva Franklin, married to Charles John Franklin moving from Hong Kong to Vancouver in 1924. Is this just coincidence.

Either way, the children are left without parents, either in the short term, or forever.

In the same house, 50 Estcourt Road, Fulham, another family lived. Perhaps, Flat 1 and Flat 2, or A and B. Either way a multi-occupancy house.

 The family was headed by Albert Ernest Malcher, age 34 years, 0 months, therefore born 1887, and his wife Josephine Philippa Malcher, nee Cornelius, age  33 years, 9 months, therefore born 1888.

They married at All Saints' Church, Battle Bridge, King's Cross, Islington, on 15^th September 1913.

From the Census 1921, they had two daughters and two visitors. Discounting the visitors, the two daughters, Gladys Josephine Mabel Malcher, age 6 years, 8 months, therefore born 1914 and Peggy Ethel Malcher, age 3 years, 4 months, therefore born 1918.

From other sources the children's Dates and Places of Births were,  Gladys; Birth 13 September 1914 • Walham Green, Fulham, Middlesex, England, and Peggy; Birth 15 February 1918 • Walham Green, Fulham, London, England

 

Between the Census 1921 and the 1939 Register, Albert and Josephine Malcher, had taken in the children from next door, or at least the daughters. They were of a similar age to their own daughters. 

From the clip, 'The bride's mother died some years ago. Her father is abroad. Her home since she was a girl has been with Mrs. Josephine Malcher at Estcourt Road.'

The son, Charles John Franklin (b. 1913) may have also been taken in, but is not listed in the 1939 register, unless he is one of the Record is Officially Closed. He would have been about 26 years of age by 1939, so he could well have moved out by then. He did give the bride away.

 

William George Good joined the army at 18, according to the clip. Born on Sunday 5^th September 1915 according to his Baptism record, he would have been 18 on Tuesday, 5 September 1933. He was abroad for the next eight years, up to 1941, if abroad started as soon as he signed up. That is unlikely, so assuming he had some in country service before going abroad, could easily take the eight years to 1944.

Hence, not being found in the 1939 Register with his family.

 

'Mrs Peggy Page, wife of a prisoner of war, was matron of honour. Also attending the bride was her sister, Eileen.'

Mrs Peggy Page was previously known as Peggy Ethel Malcher who married Albert James Page Albert James Page on 17^th April 1938. He lived at 44 Tournay Road, Fulham when they married, and presumably it became the family home, and was still so, when used for the wedding reception.

 

 

 

 Also 50 Estcourt Road, Fulham.

 

 

 

 

1913	Marriage solemnized at		All Saints Church in the parish of Battle Bridge Kings Cross in the County of Middlesex
No. 82
September 15th 1913	Albert Ernest Malcher 26 Batchelor	Booking Clerk	5 East court Road Fulham		William John Malcher (Deceased)	Coach Builder
	and
	Josephine Philippa Cornelius 25 Spinster		96 York Road		William Cornelius	Engineer
	were Married in this Church by	Banns this	29 Day of October in the Year One Thousand seven Hundred and Sixty	by me	Ed: Morris	Rector
Married in the	All Saints Church		according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church	by		or after
					Banns
	This Marriage was solemnized between us		Albert Ernest Malcher	by me	Rice Jones.	Curate
			Josephine Philippa Cornelius
	In the Presence of		William John Cornelius
			William Joseph Cornelius
	15 Sept 1913

 

 

 

 All Saints' Church, corner of Caledonian Road and All Saints' Street,  Battle Bridge King's Cross. Battlebridge Basin, Regents Canal, and York Road, now York Way, all given a colour wash.

 OS 25 Old Map Kings Cross York Road and All Saint's Church - London (1915- Numbered sheets) V.6 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

 York Road, now York Way, is a long road, much longer than I have captured on the clip of the map. I don't know where number 96 was but assume it is likely to be near the church, in the same parish, Battle Bridge.

York Road is a long way from Fulham, but I suspect he worked at King's Cross Booking Office, probably on the District Line, and that is how they may have met.

 

 

 

 Born 5 Sept 1915, and Baptised on 24 Oct 1915, William George, son of George Frederick & Alice Mary Good of 4 Turneville Road, at St Andrew's Church, Fulham. Father's occupation, Porter.

OS 25 Old Map Fulham St Andrews Church and Turneville Road - London (Edition of 1894-96) LXXXVI Revised: 1893 to 1894, Published: 1897

William George Good, aged 6 was living with his parents, George Fredrick, aged 37, and Alice Mary Good, aged 32, of 1 Rowallan Road, Fulham, Middlesex, England. George was a Horse Driver for J H Beatlie & Co, Coal Merchants of Seagrave Road Fulham. He also lived with two siblings, Arthur Edward Good aged 3 years, and Dorthy Mary Good, daughter, aged 11 months.

Rowallan Road is about a 6 minute walk away from Estcourt Road.

 

 

 In the 1939 Register there were two Good families living adjacent to the Malchet's at 50 Estcourt Road. One of which was George Fredrick Good and his daughter Kathline C Good, born 5^th Feb 1910. George was the father of William George Good, the groom in our wedding newspaper clipping. Not a few doors away, but next door, in the same house. William's mother had died on 27^th September 1934 at Fulham, London, England, and was therefore not in the 1939 Register, nor at the wedding.

 

An extract from William's Medal Card.

Name	W. G Good
Rank	Lance Corporal
Birth Date	1915
Award Date	1 Nov 1949
Discharge Date	11 Apr 1946
Applicant's Delivery Address	44 Tousnay Road, Fulham, London S. W. 6
Class of Release	Z
Service Number	5725076
Regiment	R. Berks
Stars/Medals Issued	1939-45; Africa; Italy; France & Germany; Defence; War

 

Very interesting to find the newspaper article about William and Vera, as it explained so mach, to be able to put the story together.

However, it did also confirm the the Good and Franklin families at the centre of the story are not part of my tree, well not an attached part.

 

Back to Peggy

Left off, with Peggy and Albert being married, and Albert being a prisoner of war.

Peggy was probably living with Vera at 44 Toursnay Road, Fulham, with both husbands away at war.

 

Albert, Peggy and Family

 

 Whilst Albert James Page is recorded as being a POW during WWII I have yet to find his military record.

What he and his wife did after the war are somewhat vague due to the lack of available records.

 

They had three children, two daughters and a son. 

Jill M Page, Born on 29th April 1939 at Parsons Green, Fulham, London, England. Jill married Gerald W Parsons on July or Q3 1957 at Islington, London, England

Sylvia P Page, Born on April or Q2 1946 at Fulham, Greater London. Sylvia married, first, Frederick J Lusted on January or Q1 1970 at Hastings, Sussex, England, and secondly, David J Booth on July or Q3 1979 at Hastings & Rother, East Sussex, England.

I have not yet found the name of the boy, but it could be Terence K Page, born in 1956. Peggy would have been 38 years of age then.

 

 

Albert James Page died on  24th June 1995 • Charring Cross Hospital. Fulham, London, England.

His wife, Peggy Ethel Page nee Malcher pre deceased him by a couple of years, May or Q2, 1993 at Fulham, London, England

 

  

 

 

 

 

Descendants

 

Albert James Page married Lily Minnie Carr. NOW DISCOUNTED.

Albert James Page married Peggy Ethel Malcher on 17 Apr 1938 at Fulham, London, England. Albert and Peggy had three children together.

• Jill M Page Born on 29 April 1939 at Parsons Green, Fulham, London, England
• Sylvia P Page, Born on April or Q2 1946 at Fulham, Greater London.
• I have not yet found the name of the boy, but it could be Terence K Page, born in 1956. Peggy would have been 38 years of age then.

 

 

Jill M Page married Gerald W Parsons on July or Q3 1957 at Islington, London, England

Gerald W and Jill M Parsons had a daughter Unknown Parsons Birth About 1959 • Fulham, London, England

The daughter married Peter John Harding Birth 19^th December 1947 • Epsom, Surrey, England Death 4^th June 24 • Torrevieja, Alicante, Pais Valenciano, Spain

Peter John Harding had a sister Susan Evelyn Harding B:28 Sep 1954 Carshalton, Surrey, England D:8 Aug 2024 Billingshurst, Sussex, England

Peter was born in Epsom and Susan in nearby Carshalton. This would suggest that the family moved from Epsom to Carshalton, not a huge distance, between 1947 and 1954.

 

Sylvia P Page, Born on April or Q2 1946 at Fulham, Greater London.

Sylvia married, first, Frederick J Lusted on January or Q1 1970 at Hastings, Sussex, England

Secondly, David J Booth on July or Q3 1979 at Hastings & Rother, East Sussex, England.

Sylvia and David had a son, Steven Booth.

 

I have not yet found the name of the boy, but it could be Terence K Page, born in 1956. Peggy would have been 38 years of age then.

 

 

 

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Peter John Harding

Birth 19 DEC 1947

 

 

 

According to the Registers of Electors 1969 - 1970 the Bonta family lived at 48 Muschamp Road, Carshalton. 

Presumed father and mother, Albert J and Edna M Bonta of Susan E Bonta. 

Peter J Harding was also living at the same address. The Y before his name indicates that he is not entitled to vote until after 1^st October 1969. 

 

The Representation of the People Act 1969 (c. 15) was an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that lowered the voting age to 18 years. This statute is sometimes called the Sixth Reform Act.

The act extended suffrage to 18-year-olds, the first democratic nation to lower its age of franchise to include this age group. Previously, only those aged over 21 were permitted to vote.

 

Section 27(1) of the act provided that sections 1, 2 and 3 and so far as relates to qualification of voting at local government elections, section 15, of the act, would come into force as to have effect with respect to the registers of electors for the year 1970.

Section 27(2) of the act provided that section 23 of the act so far as it relates to the age for voting at ward elections or to sections 1 or 3 of the act would come into force as to have effect with respect to the ward lists for the year 1970.

Section 27(3) of the act provided that the act would come into force on a day or days appointed by the home secretary by statutory instrument.

 

The Representation of the People Act 1969 (Commencement) Order 1969 (SI 1969/630) provided specific commencement dates for acts enactments listed in the schedules to the statutory instrument.

The Representation of the People Act 1969 (Commencement No. 2) Order 1971 (SI 1971/544) provided that section 18(1) of the act would come into force on 1 July 1971.

The Representation of the People Act 1969 (Commencement No. 3) Order 1976 (SI 1976/2064) provided that the rest of the act would come into force on 1 February 1977, namely paragraph 4 of part II of schedule 2 to the act.

 

 

On 1^st October 1969, given a date  of birth of 19^th December 1947, Peter J Harding would have been, 21 years, 9 months, 13 days including the end date.

The electoral roll was evidently prepared prior to the change in the voting age, which is both understandable and consistent with the starting dates of the Act.

The entry of a Y on his record is not inconstant with his date of birth of 19^th December 1947.

The absence of a Y before Susan's name indicates that she was older than Peter and already eligible to vote.

There is also a Eva M Murdoch living at number 48. Currently I have presumed that this is Edna's mother.

 

  

It would therefore be reasonable to assume that Susan's mothers maiden name would be Murdoch.

An extract from the Q2 1950 Birth Index

Name; Bonta, Susan E. - Mother's Maiden Name; Murdoch - District; Surrey N.E.

However, this gives rise to a problem. 

There is no annotation on the Register of Electors for Bonta, Susan E. suggesting no restrictions due to age. Stated date of eligibility is 10th October 1968, hence 21 years of age before that date, for date of birth, i.e.. 11th October 1947.

To be resolved.

 

 

 

 

Harding, Peter J. married Bonta or Bunta in Sutton district Q4 1968. Vol 5E Page 383

 

 

Bonta, Susan E. married Harding in Sutton district Q4 1968. Vol 5E Page 383.

 

This entry resolves the previous Bonta or Bunta as Bonta. Both proceeding and succeeding entries are Bo.

 

The marriage occurred in the 4th Quarter 1968 so could easily be after the Qualifying date of 10^th October 1968.

 

 

 

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A Peter J Harding divorced Susan on 3 Nov 1983 at Pinellas, Florida, USA

The record comes up as Ancestry hints in both Peter's and Susan's profiles.

I have yet to find records of travel or emigration to USA.

 

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Some Ancestry Trees have Peter J Harding as marrying a person called Parsons in 1990 in Australia.

I have yet to find evidence.

'Gerald W and Jill M Parsons had a daughter Unknown Parsons Birth ABT. 1959 • Fulham, London, England'

It is the marriage to the daughter of  Gerald W Parsons and Jill M Parsons nee Page that brings Peter J Harding into my tree.

 

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 Some Ancestry Trees have Peter J Harding as having died on 4 June 2024 at Torrevieja, Alicante, Pais Valenciano, Spain.

 

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