Biddlecombe families of Ashurst, Hampshire
Including the nearby Colbury and Hounsdown, all part of the New Forest
Three small hamlets in the parish of Eling, in the County of Hampshire, which was sometimes known as Southampton.
This section contains a collection of people associated with the area together with the associated 'locations and 'Records and Other'
This is part of a series of articles about the Families of Biddlecombe and variations of that name. The introduction to the series is Families of Biddlecombe and variations of that name - START. If you have not visited the introduction yet might I suggest that you do so.
Location section Ashurst, Hampshire
Including Colbury, Hounsdown, and Langley Manor, all in the Parish of Eling, all in the New Forest.
OS 6 Map Ashurst - Hampshire & Isle of Wight Sheet LXIV.SE Revised: 1895, Published: 1898
From the above OS Map Ashurst is a small settlement. Nearby are the New Forest Union Workhouse (1836), and Lyndhurst Road Station, (Opened on 1 June 1847 by the Southampton and Dorchester Railway, then absorbed by the London and South Western Railway,)
Sheet view of the above map. The area clearly shown as Colbury. The village of Eling in the top right corner.
Follow the link to see how, and when the Ancient Parish of Eling was split in three, with Ashurst, Colbury, and Hounsdown, all in the Parish of, well, still Eling, but much smaller. North Eling was created in 1837 and Marchwood in 1846.
Extent of Biddlecombe Surname, and variations.
This is part of the process of trying to establish if there are other Biddlecome families in the area, which could confuse matters, and their number and distribution. By seeing families in the Baptism Register can help eliminate alternative options for residents in Hampshire, of the Church of England. Obliviously this method excludes families without children. It also does not take into account other variables such as change of location. Similar for Marriage Register, except, if I understand correctly, even non-Conformists had to be married in Church of England churches.
It is just indicative, but helpful.
Baptism Index 1537-1659
Extract of HGS Baptism Index 1537 - 1659 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Baptisms 1537 to 1659
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Baptism Index 1537 - 1659
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle???
These settings only produced a list of 4 baptisms, in the list below. Apparently to two or three families, depending upon if Frances is a female, a different person to Francis, or a spelling mistake. Perhaps a widow of Francis or Morris.
The dates of baptisms are all over an eight year period, near the end of the Index period.
It should be noted that for a lot of Parishes, the end date of 1659, is before or close to the first date of Parish records still in existence. So, the absence of a return for a parish, does not necessarily mean that there were no families of that name in that Parish, just none in the register.
04 Apr 1643 | S | John | Francis | Biddlecome | Eling | |
10 Jun 1644 | S | Morris | Morris | Biddlecome | Eling | |
14 Jan 1645/6 | S | Richard | Francis | Biddlecome | Eling | |
20 Oct 1650 | D | Bridget | Frances | Biddlecome | Eling | |
From the Parent Forename, none of the parents were married in the Parish of Eling before the dates of the Baptisms, therefore probably married elsewhere and moved to the Parish of Eling after marriage.
I have searched the images of the Eling Parish Register for this period and found the records for each of the four baptisms above. I have added the baptised, assumed children with approximately the same year of birth as the year of baptism, to my Hurst Family Tree. I have also added the parents as, Francis, Morris, and Frances. Three families across four baptisms. In those records, there was no further information regarding the place other that the Parish of Eling.
Filtered for the Parish of, All
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? with Parent Forenames cycling through the above found names.
This is to try to establish if there were other Baptisms to the same parent, in any other Hampshire Parish.
Extract of HGS Baptism Index 1537 - 1659 - Biddle??? for the County of Hampshire, all Parishes
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
Filtered for the Parish of, All
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? with Parent Forenames blank
This is to try to establish the extent and distribution where Biddle??? Baptisms were taking place, by parish.
The Parishes of residence are Ringwood (29), Heckfield (12), Broughton (7), Eling (4), Yateley (3), Lockerly (2), Headley (2), Durley (2), Ellingham (1), and Bramshott (1).
The resorting to my trusty Excel.
Ringwood is the clear centre of population of Biddlecombe in this period.
Below, a grouping of the data by Parish and then Parent Surname, Forename to approximate family groups.
It would appear that some are the same family, but with varying spelling or abbreviations.
Apologies that this is slightly out of focus, it has had to be shrunk and re-expanded to get on this page.
Variations of surnames.
Biddle returns with a search of Biddle??? or more precisely, Biddle*, but is not likely to be significant as a variation of Biddlecombe. I chose Biddle* as the search to ensure capturing as many relevant variations as possible including misspellings from 'c' onwards.
Baptism Index 1660-1751
Extract of HGS Baptism Index 1660 - 1751 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Baptisms 1537 to 1659
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Baptism Index 1660 - 1751
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle???
These settings only produced a list of 8 baptisms, in the list below. Apparently to five families.
The dates of baptisms are throughout the Index period.
21 Jun 1663 | S | Arthur | John | Biddlecome | Eling | |
29 Jan 1692/3 | S | John | Arthur | Biddlecomb | Eling | |
10 Dec 1697 | S | John | Arthur | Biddlecomb | Eling | bn 29 Sep |
23 Oct 1723 | D | Mary | Richard | Biddlecombe | Eling | |
01 May 1723 | S | Arthur | Arthur & Mary | Biddlecombe | Eling | |
12 Mar 1742/3 | D | Elizabeth | Arthur & Elizabeth | Biddlecome | Eling | |
28 Jul 1745 | S | Arthur | Arthur & Elizabeth | Biddlecomb | Eling | |
07 Mar 1747/8 | D | Ann | Arthur & Elizabeth | Biddlecomb | Eling | |
By reference to the Marriage Register for the Parish of Eling, in the period 1660 to 1753.
06 May 1722 Eling - Arthur Biddlecomb and Mary Batchelor
06 Jun 1742 Eling - Arthur Biddlecombe and Elizabeth Blake
I consider that these correlate with the above baptisms from 1723 onward.
Extract of HGS Baptism Index 1660 - 1751 - Biddle??? for the County of Hampshire, all Parishes
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
Filtered for the Parish of, All
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? with Parent Forenames blank
This is to try to establish the extent and distribution where Biddle??? Baptisms were taking place, by parish.
The Parishes of residence are;-
Resorting to my trusty Excel.
Ringwood is still the clear centre of population of Biddlecombe in this period, but the spread from Ringwood is significantly greater than the previous period.
Below, a grouping of the data by Parish and then Parent Surname, Forename to approximate family groups.
It would appear that some are the same family, but with varying spelling or abbreviations.
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Variations of surnames.
Biddle returns with a search of Biddle??? or more precisely, Biddle*, but is not likely to be significant as a variation of Biddlecombe. I chose Biddle* as the search to ensure capturing as many relevant variations as possible including misspellings from 'c' onwards.
Baptism Index 1752-1812
Extract of HGS Baptism Index 1752 - 1812 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Baptisms 1752 to 1812
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Baptism Index 1752 - 1812
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle???
These settings produced a list of 25 baptisms, in the list below. Apparently to more than half a dozen families.
The dates of baptisms are all over an 14 year period, near the end of the Index period.
Biddlecomb | Ann | 03 Mar 1799 | Daniel & Ann |
Biddlecomb | Ann | 03 Jan 1808 | John & Sarah |
Biddlecomb | Charles | 25 Aug 1811 | Daniel & Anne |
Biddlecomb | Elizabeth | 08 Jul 1770 | Edward |
Biddlecomb | George | 02 Dec 1810 | Leonard & Mary |
Biddlecomb | Hannah | 25 May 1804 | Leonard & Ann |
Biddlecomb | Isaac | 25 May 1800 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | James | 18 Feb 1798 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | John | 18 Jun 1786 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | John | 25 May 1800 | Leonard & Mary |
Biddlecomb | Martha | 16 May 1784 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | Mary | 24 Mar 1761 | Edward & Mary |
Biddlecomb | Mary | 29 Mar 1801 | Daniel & Ann |
Biddlecomb | Mary Ann | 06 Feb 1803 | Leonard & Mary |
Biddlecomb | Robert | 14 Sep 1788 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | Sarah | 21 Dec 1794 | Daniel |
Biddlecomb | Sarah | 30 Apr 1809 | Edward & Sarah |
Biddlecomb | Stephen | 23 Jan 1791 | John & Hannah |
Biddlecomb | Susannah | 06 Nov 1785 | Edwd & Elizth |
Biddlecomb | Thos | 07 Aug 1803 | Daniel & Ann |
Biddlecombe | Harriot | 10 May 1808 | Leonard & Mary |
Biddlecombe | Jane | 05 Feb 1809 | Daniel & Anne |
Biddlecombe | Joseph | 28 May 1797 | Daniell & Anne |
Biddlecombe | Maria | 25 Oct 1809 | Leonard & Mary |
Biddlecombe | Maria | 10 May 1812 | John & Sarah |
Potential family groups;
There is more data in this period, 1752 to 1812 so I have used excel to help sort and present the data. Still only 25 people, but more than a previous period, where plain old observation would do.
Firstly, the potential families by the parents' first names.
Then, the same information, but including the children baptised by those parents.
Timeline
The baptism date calculated to a year, and then an annual timeline of baptisms produced.
Marriage Index 1538-1659
Extract of HGS Marriage Index 1538 - 1659 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Marriages 1538 - 1660
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Marriage Index 1538 - 1660
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? - Bride and Groom
These settings only produced a list of zero marriages, with the brides name being Biddle or variations thereof. For the groom there was only one named Biddle???
That is only one marriage for Biddle and variations, both bride and groom in 123 years. About 1 weddings per century on average across the period. Not an auspicious start. At least it was a date at the end of the period.
It should be noted that for a lot of Parishes, the end date of 1660, is before or close to the first date of Parish records still in existence. So, the absence of a return for a parish, does not necessarily mean that there were no families of that name in that Parish, just none in the register.
23 Oct 1654 Eling -- John Biddlecombe and Susannah Thomas
Perhaps the first family to set up camp in the parish of Eling, or maybe John's parents were.
By reference to the Baptism Index of a similar period, John and Susannah do not have any children Baptised in the Parish of Eling before 1659.
Marriage Index 1660-1753
Extract of HGS Marriage Index 1660 - 1753 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Marriages 1660 - 1753
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Marriage Index 1660 - 1753
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? - Bride and Groom
These settings only produced a list of three marriages, with the brides name being Biddle or variations thereof. For the groom there was only two named Biddle???
That is only five marriages for Biddle and variations, both bride and groom in 93 years, and one of those could be a widow. About 4 weddings per century on average across the period. Not a large population of Biddlecombes in the parish of Eling in this period.
04 Sep 1749 Eling - Robert Rogers and Hannah Biddlecombe
14 Apr 1750 Eling - William Baily and Elizab (w) Biddlecombe
07 Apr 1753 Eling - John Light and Susannah Biddlecombe
The (w) after Elizabeth indicates she is a widow, and therefore Biddlecombe is unlikely to be her maiden name.
In the previous index 23 Oct 1654 Eling -- John Biddlecombe and Susannah Thomas. Susannah Thomas would have become Susannah Biddlecombe. The interval between the two Susannah marriages is nearly a century, so it is reasonable to assume it is not the same person.
06 May 1722 Eling - Arthur Biddlecomb and Mary Batchelor
06 Jun 1742 Eling - Arthur Biddlecombe and Elizabeth Blake
Marriage Index 1754-1837
Extract of HGS Marriage Index 1754 - 1837 - Biddle??? for the Parish of Eling
To include Biddlecomb, Biddlecombe, Biddlecob, and other variations.
HGS Marriages 1754 - 1837
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Hampshire Genealogical Society (HGS) Marriage Index 1754 - 1837
Filtered for the Parish of, Eling
Filtered for Surname, Biddle??? - Bride and Groom
These settings only produced a list of thirteen marriages, with the brides name being Biddle or variations thereof. For the groom there was nineteen named Biddle???
That is thirty-two marriages for Biddle and variations, both bride and groom in 83 years, and one of those is repeated, i.e. in both Bride and Groom, so thirty-one in total. About 4 weddings per decade on average across the period. Not a large population of Biddlecombes in the parish of Eling in this period, but a veritable population explosion compared to previous indexes.
Bride
04 Apr 1763 | Eling | John Davis | and | Jane Biddlecomb |
15 Dec 1774 | Eling | William Franklin | and | Martha Biddle |
20 Oct 1776 | Eling | Joseph Golding (w) | and | Elizabeth Biddlecomb |
20 Jan 1790 | Eling | William Mabey | and | Mary Biddlecomb |
14 Dec 1805 | Eling | Henry King | and | Susannah Biddlecomb |
05 Jun 1805 | Eling | John Plowman | and | Martha Biddlecomb |
11 Oct 1818 | Eling | William Biddlecombe | and | Hannah Biddlecombe |
23 Apr 1821 | Eling | Charles Lowe | and | Ann Biddlecomb |
21 Oct 1824 | Eling | Samuel Scorey | and | Elizabeth Biddlecomb |
17 Apr 1825 | Eling | Stephen Osman | and | Mary Ann Biddlecomb |
18 May 1828 | Eling | Henry Frampton | and | Sarah Biddlecomb |
23 Jun 1833 | Eling | William Vaughn | and | Mary Biddlecombe |
27 Nov 1834 | Eling | James Bundy | and | Emma Biddlecombe |
Groom
01 Jun 1759 | Eling | Edward Biddlecomb | and | Mary Plaskett |
13 Jun 1762 | Eling | William Biddlecomb | and | Honour Curtis |
30 Mar 1770 | Eling | Edward Biddlecomb | and | Elizabeth Scorey |
17 Jul 1782 | Eling | John Biddlecomb | and | Hannah Hatch |
14 Apr 1788 | Eling | Daniel Biddlecomb | and | Mary Fabian |
19 Feb 1797 | Eling | Daniel Biddlecomb | and | Ann Davies |
24 Mar 1799 | Eling | Leaonnard Biddlecomb | and | Mary Harris |
25 Aug 1807 | Eling | John Biddlecomb | and | Sarah Lowman |
19 Jan 1811 | Eling | Joseph Biddlecomb | and | Charlotte Lancaster |
20 Mar 1813 | Eling | Robert Biddlecomb | and | Mary Morris |
25 Oct 1814 | Eling | John Biddlecomb | and | Elizabeth Oliver |
11 Oct 1818 | Eling | William Biddlecombe | and | Hannah Biddlecombe |
27 Dec 1819 | Eling | Thomas Biddlecomb | and | Elizabeth Luke |
27 Sep 1821 | Eling | James Biddlecomb | and | Elizabeth Hendy |
19 Jul 1821 | Eling | Isaac Biddlecomb | and | Ann Hurle |
05 Jan 1821 | Eling | Dewrin Biddlecombe | and | Mary Pierce |
27 Oct 1822 | Eling | Charles Biddlecomb | and | Ann Jerram |
18 Mar 1832 | Eling | George Biddlecomb | and | Elizabeth Longland |
29 Jun 1837 | Eling | William Biddlecomb | and | Susannah Bundy |
Parish Registers
Moving on from an overview of the Register to a detailed look at the contents, on a journey of discovery for Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, and perhaps a few other things on the way. Hoping to find validation regarding people in my Ancestry Family Tree, and perhaps some additional information / people.
List of Rectors & Vicars
A spectacular find. Click on image to go to source.
Eling
These lists are so helpful. In the past I would look through the Parish Register for information to create a list, or go to some of the sources at the top of the image. This is so much easier, just look the parish up, and there is the list. I recognise some of the names from the Marriage Certificates.