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John Govier

Male 1812 - 1848  (36 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Govier was born in 1812 in Oakley or Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 28 Jul 1848 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.

    John married Martha Mary Shrimpton on 10 Oct 1836 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England. Martha was born in 1803 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in 1843 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Deborah Jane Govier  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Sep 1839 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in Dec 1900 in Thame, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Deborah Jane Govier Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born in Sep 1839 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in Dec 1900 in Thame, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Robert Messer. Robert was born in 1840 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Henry Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1860 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.
    2. 4. Elizabeth Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1864 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.
    3. 5. Rose Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1865 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.
    4. 6. Annie Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1867 in Chilworth, Oxfordshire, England.
    5. 7. Frederick Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1869 in Wheatley, Thame, Oxfordshire, England; died on 13 Dec 1894 in St Margaret Hospital, St John, Paddington, London, England.
    6. 8. Emma Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1870 in Wheatley, Oxfordshire, England.
    7. 9. Ada Fanny Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1879 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Henry Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born about 1860 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.

  2. 4.  Elizabeth Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in Abt. 1864 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.

  3. 5.  Rose Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in Abt. 1865 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.

  4. 6.  Annie Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in Abt. 1867 in Chilworth, Oxfordshire, England.

  5. 7.  Frederick Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in 1869 in Wheatley, Thame, Oxfordshire, England; died on 13 Dec 1894 in St Margaret Hospital, St John, Paddington, London, England.

    Frederick married Eliza Harriet Grove on 22 Mar 1891 in Cowley, Middlesex, England. Eliza was born on 19 Jun 1869 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died in 1940 in Cowley, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Frederick James Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 3 March 1892 in Cowley, Hillingdon, Middlesex, England; died in Mar 1963 in Uxbridge, Middlesex, England.
    2. 11. Mary Ann Messer  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 2 Dec 1893 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died on 18 Feb 1986 in Hillingdon, Middlesex, England.

  6. 8.  Emma Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in Abt. 1870 in Wheatley, Oxfordshire, England.

  7. 9.  Ada Fanny Messer Descendancy chart to this point (2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born in Abt. 1879 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  Frederick James Messer Descendancy chart to this point (7.Frederick3, 2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born on 3 March 1892 in Cowley, Hillingdon, Middlesex, England; died in Mar 1963 in Uxbridge, Middlesex, England.

  2. 11.  Mary Ann Messer Descendancy chart to this point (7.Frederick3, 2.Deborah2, 1.John1) was born on 2 Dec 1893 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died on 18 Feb 1986 in Hillingdon, Middlesex, England.

    Mary married Arthur Charles Lake on 12 Oct 1912 in Yiewsley, Middlesex, England. Arthur was born in Jan 1885 in Paddington, London, England; died on 5 May 1915 in France and Flanders. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Arthur Ernest Benjamin Lake  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 14 Mar 1913 in Uxbridge, Middlesex, England; died on 24 Apr 1944 in Bari, Puglia, Italy.


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