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receiving the Rape of Arundel at the end of 1067 (or in early 1068). William gave Earl Roger nearly all of what is now the county of West Sussex, which at the time of the Domesday Survey was the Rape of Arundel. Roger the Great de Montgomery, First Earl of Shrewsbury, and Earl of Arundel

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  1. 1.  receiving the Rape of Arundel at the end of 1067 (or in early 1068). William gave Earl Roger nearly all of what is now the county of West Sussex, which at the time of the Domesday Survey was the Rape of Arundel. Roger the Great de Montgomery, First Earl of Shrewsbury, and Earl of Arundel was born in Bef. 1046; died in 1094.

    Family/Spouse: Mabel de Bellême, House of Bellême. Mabel (daughter of William I Talvas (the shield) House of Bellême, Seigneur of Alençon and Hildeburg) was born in 1030; died in 1079. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Robert of Bellême, seigneur de Bellême (or Belèsme), seigneur de Montgomery, viscount of the Hiémois, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury and Count of Ponthieu  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Abt. 1056; died in Aft. 1130.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert of Bellême, seigneur de Bellême (or Belèsme), seigneur de Montgomery, viscount of the Hiémois, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury and Count of Ponthieu Descendancy chart to this point (1.Roger1) was born in Abt. 1056; died in Aft. 1130.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. William III of Ponthieu, Seigneur de Montgomery in Normandy and Count of Ponthieu  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1093; died in 1172.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  William III of Ponthieu, Seigneur de Montgomery in Normandy and Count of Ponthieu Descendancy chart to this point (2.Robert2, 1.Roger1) was born in 1093; died in 1172.

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Ela  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 4

  1. 4.  Ela Descendancy chart to this point (3.William3, 2.Robert2, 1.Roger1)

    Family/Spouse: Walter of Salisbury. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



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