| 2. | Hildegard, Abbess of Fraumünster |
| 3. | Carloman of Bavaria, King of Bavaria, King of Italy |
| 4. | Louis the Younger, also Louis the Saxon or Louis III, King of Eastern Francia, King of Bavaria Family/Spouse: Liutgard of Saxony, Queen of East Francia. Liutgard (daughter of Liudolf of Saxony, Duke of Saxony and Oda of Billung) was born in Abt. 845; died on 17 Nov 885. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 5. | Charles III, also known as Charles the Fat, Emperor of the Carolingian Empire |
| 6. | Irmgard also known as Ermengard of Chiemsee, Abbess of Frauenwörth Abbey |
| 7. | Gisela |
| 8. | Bertha |
| 9. | Louis (877–879) |
| 10. | Hildegard |